“AMAZING!” that worked Russ.  I changed the command from “go up 40” to “Jump up 40” and doubled up on the “send keys 20” line just as you instructed, did it with all four directions and now it works a treat.  Thanks for that. Ingenious little tool the WSRToolkit is.

I agree with Russ that learning keyboard shortcuts (or printing out a list of them) will make it easy to create command macros and eventually scripting macros. I just click the Start button, Help and then do a search for, "Keyboard Shortcuts."   Marty   PS. When you feel ready to tackle scripting, let me know and we will send you a copy of the Scripting Book.

So you do need to know what the keyboard shortcuts do. I thought that initially.  I will acquire a list of the shortcuts on a keyboard just like you say Marty and thanks for your offer of sending me a copy of the Scripting Book; perhaps you could send me a copy shortly. Dare I ask what “Scripting Macros” means?

I now would like to have a go at producing a text macro. I know I can read up on this which I will but could you show me an example?

Say I wanted to do the same as you Marty and say “Sign Off” and my name appeared how would I do this?

andy t 

High Russ,

After careful studying of your instructions, I believe I eventually fathomed out what you meant. It was all going well and I made the macros but the outcome did not come out as I wanted it.

Let me explain what I did and then you can tell me if or where I went wrong?

Regarding question #1, I am referring to the four arrow keys on your keyboard.

Yes I got that, I created four macros just as you said. Let me show you on just one of the examples which I did because the other three were exactly the same except for the direction which I wanted the cursor to go as you mention.

In the WSR Tool Kit>Command Macros, I then put in the command I wanted in the “When I Say Box” which was in this case “Go up 40”.  I did not check any of the “ALT”, “CTRL” or “SHIFT” boxes.  I simply chose “Up” from the “Command Key” selection.  I then added and created it.

Regarding question #2, Windows Explorer is a program that you can use for viewing files on your computer. You can access it by saying "Start Windows Explorer." Then you can navigate to display the Speech Macros folder, which is where your speech macros are stored.

When you mentioned “Windows Explorer”, I was getting confused with “Internet Explorer”. I thought you meant some program on the Web!

Anyway, I found there are several ways to get to these macros. There is your way, you can get to them by clicking the blue speech bubble icon in the bottom right of your task bar, you can get to them by saying “Open Speech Macros” or you can get to them by going to “My Documents” and the folder is in there. They are actually in the “Notepad” application.

At that point, you should see that WSR Toolkit creates individual files for the macros that you create with the WSR Toolkit. You can open and edit these files with any program that reads text files such as the Notepad and Wordpad programs that are included with Windows.

When I was in the macros folder, I clicked File>Speech Macros>Edit. I then found the macro I had created for “Go up 40”. So I did as you said and cut and pasted it into Wordpad.  Sure enough, it showed the macro with the line in it exactly as you said like thus: -

<sendKeys>{UP}</ sendKeys>

 

Regarding question #3, what I'm referring to here is opening each of the four text files for the macros you created and making a slight editing change to a single line in each file. Regarding question #4, the modified line contains a little bit of additional text inserted in a specific location: times="40"

I did just that and edited the text just as you instructed. Here I show you an example of just one of them. (The “Go up 40” command)

<!-- Command macro created with WSRToolkit (Version: 1.5.0.2) 17/05/2009 18:45:56 -->

<speechMacros>

<command>

<condition operator="not">

<appIsInForeground processName="WSRToolkit.exe"/>

</condition>

<listenFor>Go up 40</listenFor>

<sendKeys times="40">{UP}</sendKeys>

</command>

</speechMacros>

This little bit if additional text causes the keystroke to execute 40 times instead of once.

That’s what I was hoping but now when I say “Go up 40” or any of the other directional commands to the screen now, it only moves 20 times in any one direction and I have already got that command in my speech recognition program.

Not only that, now when I say “Go up 4” or “Go Down 4” or any of the other directional moves, it moves the cursor or emails 20 times in the direction I am commanding it whereas before it only use to move 4 times! 

Where am I going wrong?

Regarding question #6, since there are four files that need to be edited, after you do the first one, you need to repeat the steps three additional times for the three additional files.

As I explained, I did that but the same thing was happening in any directional move.

And as for your final question, the answer is yes. You can use one, any, or all of ALT, CTRL, and SHIFT in order to execute keyboard shortcuts that involve any combination of those keys.

So for example, reading the above, could I have checked the “CTRL” box + “Up” in the “Command Key” selection? Or could I have checked the “ALT” box + “Up” in the “Command Key” selection?  Or any other combination?  Does it matter which one you use for a certain command?

A final note: because I don't use WSR Toolkit regularly to edit macros, I overlooked an easier approach to making the... times="40" ...modification to the macros. Notice that when you're looking at the Command Macros tab in WSR Toolkit, there is a Macro Editor tab as well. You can click this tab and make the text modification directly in WSR Toolkit, which is easier than using a separate application like Notepad or WordPad. (See the WSR Toolkit manual for more information about this.)

Yes, as I explained earlier in this post, there are several ways to get your speech macros.  I soon found this out.  So after doing all that as you instructed, why does it only move 20 times and not 40 times?

Perhaps I need to delete those macros and try are again. What do you think?  Have you got any other ideas to make these sure fire commands?

andy t

 

]]> Mon, 18 May 2009 09:16:35 +0000 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post432.html#432 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post431.html#431 Author: russ
Subject: 86
Posted: 17/May/2009 at 11:31am

Andy T,

Regarding question #1, I am referring to the four arrow keys on your keyboard.

Regarding question #2, Windows Explorer is a program that you can use for viewing files on your computer. You can access it by saying "Start Windows Explorer." Then you can navigate to display the Speech Macros folder, which is where your speech macros are stored.

At that point, you should see that WSR Toolkit creates individual files for the macros that you create with the WSR Toolkit. You can open and edit these files with any program that reads text files such as the Notepad and Wordpad programs that are included with Windows.

Regarding question #3, what I'm referring to here is opening each of the four text files for the macros you created and making a slight editing change to a single line in each file.

Regarding question #4, the modified line contains a little bit of additional text inserted in a specific location:

times="40"

This little bit if additional text causes the keystroke to execute 40 times instead of once.

Regarding question #6, since there are four files that need to be edited, after you do the first one, you need to repeat the steps three additional times for the three additional files.

And as for your final question, the answer is yes. You can use one, any, or all of ALT, CTRL, and SHIFT in order to execute keyboard shortcuts that involve any combination of those keys.

A final note: because I don't use WSR Toolkit regularly to edit macros, I overlooked an easier approach to making the... times="40" ...modification to the macros. Notice that when you're looking at the Command Macros tab in WSR Toolkit, there is a Macro Editor tab as well. You can click this tab and make the text modification directly in WSR Toolkit, which is easier than using a separate application like Notepad or WordPad. (See the WSR Toolkit manual for more information about this.)

Good luck! I hope you post back letting Marty and I know how it goes.

-Russ

]]> Sun, 17 May 2009 11:31:22 +0000 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post431.html#431 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post430.html#430 Author: andy t
Subject: 86
Posted: 15/May/2009 at 5:07pm

There is a way that you could create a single macro that would do all the four direction movements, but it sounds like you're having fun making macros yourself, so here's a way you can do it with both WSR Toolkit and a little bit of hand editing. I'm assuming that what you really want to do is the equivalent of pressing the arrow key 40 times.

Yes, each way, right, left, up and down.

 

1. Use the Command Macros tab in WSR Toolkit to create four macros named like you want. In the Simulate Keypress area, make each macro move just a single arrow movement: Up, Down, Left, and Right.

 

Not quite sure what you mean here Russ, can you elaborate on what a single arrow movement is? Could you demonstrate it for me?

2. Use Windows Explorer to display the Speech Macros folder. You should see files there that are named after the macros you created. They have .WSRMac extensions.

When you say use Windows Explorer to display the Speech Macros folder, Not quite sure what you mean here either? Do you mean the little blue Macros bubble icon in the task bar at the bottom right of the screen? If not could you explain this to me and how to get this up? 

 

3. One at a time, open each file in a text editor like Wordpad or Notepad. You should see a line like the following, which will vary based on the direction key in the macro:

 

Do you mean copy and paste each one into Wordpad or Notepad one at a time?

 

<sendKeys>{UP}</sendKeys> 4. Change the line to look like this: <sendKeys times="40">{UP}</sendKeys>

Looking at the final line above, do you mean change the position of those arrows shown in your equation?

 

If not could you give me some examples? 

6. Repeat the steps for the other three files, and you should have macro commands that are ready to go!

Hmmm... I think I know what you mean , so in the end would each command be slightly different as I speak it to go to their respected directions?

 

Sorry for appearing a bit thick but this is all new to me and I should really get that book.

 

One other question for you.

 

When the WSR tool kit is open and you select command macros, then you pick a command to use and put it in the "When I Say" box then after that when you go to the "Simulate Keypress", can you pick any of the three "ALT", "CTRL" or "Shift" with any of the "Command Keys" for any Macro you care to choose?

 

Cheers

 

Andy

]]> Fri, 15 May 2009 17:07:34 +0000 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post430.html#430 https://www.msspeech-forum.com/moving-up-and-down-email-selections_topic86_post427.html#427 Author: russ
Subject: 86
Posted: 14/May/2009 at 3:53pm

Andy T,

There is a way that you could create a single macro that would do all the four direction movements, but it sounds like you're having fun making macros yourself, so here's a way you can do it with both WSR Toolkit and a little bit of hand editing.

I'm assuming that what you really want to do is the equivalent of pressing the arrow key 40 times.

1. Use the Command Macros tab in WSR Toolkit to create four macros named like you want. In the Simulate Keypress area, make each macro move just a single arrow movement: Up, Down, Left, and Right.

2. Use Windows Explorer to display the Speech Macros folder. You should see files there that are named after the macros you created. They have .WSRMac extensions.

3. One at a time, open each file in a text editor like Wordpad or Notepad. You should see a line like the following, which will vary based on the direction key in the macro:

<sendKeys>{UP}</sendKeys>

4. Change the line to look like this:

<sendKeys times="40">{UP}</sendKeys>

5. Save and close the file. If you get any kind of error messages, that means there's probably a syntax error in the file that needs to be fixed.

6. Repeat the steps for the other three files, and you should have macro commands that are ready to go!

-Russ

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