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   <title><![CDATA[Windows 7 for hands free computing? : Exactly why I used Microsoft powertoy...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7">mmarkoe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/May/2009 at 10:27am<br /><br />&#091;QUOTE=cmwilkerson&#093;Exactly why I used Microsoft powertoy dictionayrtool.exe.<a href="http://www.medicaltabletpc.com/index.php?opti&#111;n=com_c&#111;ntent&amp;task=view&amp;id=660&amp;Itemid=1%5b/QUOTE" target="_blank">&#091;/QUOTE</A>&#093; <DIV>You are obviously much more highly technically proficient than most physicians. We posted on the <a href="http://www.emrupdate.com/forums/p/19481/97356.aspx#97356" target="_blank"><strong>EMRUpdate forum</strong></A> how using the WSRTooklit does the same thing you do but has the tools readily available. Also, I believe you increase accuracy by using both Add From File and Train From Text.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Windows 7 for hands free computing? : &amp;gt;&amp;gt;As the handwriting and...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=25">cmwilkerson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/May/2009 at 10:18am<br /><br />&gt;&gt;As the handwriting and SR software use the same dictionary this would work well for medical vocabulary.&lt;&lt; <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Exactly why I used Microsoft powertoy dictionayrtool.exe. I have some more specific instructions, with respect to the tool, &nbsp;found here: <a href="http://www.medicaltabletpc.com/index.php?opti&#111;n=com_c&#111;ntent&amp;task=view&amp;id=660&amp;Itemid=1" target="_blank">http://www.medicaltabletpc.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=660&amp;Itemid=1</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by cmwilkerson - 10/May/2009 at 10:21am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Windows 7 for hands free computing? : OK, now I see you are referring...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7">mmarkoe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/May/2009 at 9:02am<br /><br />OK, now I see you are referring to the tool downloadable for Tablet PCs at:<DIV><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/tabletpc.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/tabletpc.mspx</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I did not realize this works for WSR as it was designed for XP Tablet. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>What you are doing is adding words but not the acoustic information. The acoustic information is&nbsp;added when those same words would be trained using the Train From Text feature of the WSRToolkit. You said you were using the Add From File feature and that does the same thing as the dictionary tool. For medical words, the acoustic trainining may not be as critical since the words used are so unique in their pronounciations.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I&nbsp;believe the dictionary tool&nbsp;was designed for handwriting recognition on Table PCs. As the handwriting and SR software use the same dictionary this would work well for medical vocabulary.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Windows 7 for hands free computing? : &amp;gt;&amp;gt;What you are calling the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=25">cmwilkerson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/May/2009 at 12:11am<br /><br />&gt;&gt;What you are calling the Dictionary Tool is our Add From File mentioned in our response to you&lt;&lt;<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>No, it is not. I am referring to a powertoy from Microsoft that is called, "dicitonarytool.exe that allows me to import an entire collection of medical words that empirically improve my recognition result. </DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 00:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7">mmarkoe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10/May/2009 at 12:01am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" alt="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>cmwilkerson wrote:</strong><br /><br />I was using the Dictionary Tool by Microsoft, a free powertoy to import a complete list of words. The WSR Toolkit, to my knowledge only allows me to add individual words. I do use the WSR Toolkit to Add from File which then scans various charts. That way, I think I get both the Lexicon and the language model.</td></tr></table> <DIV>You should take a look at all the features in the WSRToolkit. What you are calling the Dictionary Tool is our Add From File mentioned in our response to you&nbsp; Posted: 05/May/2009 at 10:55am. I also mentioned Train From Text. These two work nicely together&nbsp;one improves Language Model and the other the Acoustic Model. You are unlikely adding words as the words are already there. By running Add From File you are bringing the words to the front of the Language Model by increasing their frequency of usage. See the features of the WSRToolkit:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV><strong>Add From File</strong> allows you to improve the accuracy of your "Language Model".&nbsp; It's not the same as adding words to your personal dictionary but works by taking the text that you pass it, parses it into words, and then records the relative frequencies of occurrence of each word with respect to the words around it.&nbsp; If you use documents that represent your style of speaking, this feature will improve dictation accuracy.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>Train From Text</strong> purpose is is to improve the acoustic model of your user profile. The acoustic model is your specific way you enunciate words. We recommend you start with the default text, "The Rainbow Passage." Then read a few of your typical documents.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=25">cmwilkerson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/May/2009 at 6:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mmarkoe" alt="Originally posted by mmarkoe" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mmarkoe wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" alt="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>cmwilkerson wrote:</strong><br /><br /><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif>After the import, radiculitis is recognized, as well every medical word tested that resides in my import!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.emrupdate.com/emotic&#111;ns/emoti&#111;n-4.gif" border="0" alt="Stick out t&#111;ngue" title="Stick out t&#111;ngue" /></FONT><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif>At this point, for my needs, &nbsp;there is no need for me to reinstall DNS.</FONT></td></tr></table> <DIV><FONT size=3>That's a great endorsement for the WSRToolkit. Do you mind if&nbsp;I mention this thread and your report in other forums?</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>Thanks,<BR>Marty</FONT></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Hi Marty,</DIV><DIV>I was using the Dictionary Tool by Microsoft, a free powertoy to import a complete list of words. The WSR Toolkit, to my knowledge only allows me to add individual words. I do use the WSR Toolkit to Add from File which then scans various charts. That way, I think I get both the Lexicon and the language model.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7">mmarkoe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/May/2009 at 5:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" alt="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>cmwilkerson wrote:</strong><br /><br /><FONT face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif size=3>After the import, radiculitis is recognized, as well every medical word tested that resides in my import!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.emrupdate.com/emotic&#111;ns/emoti&#111;n-4.gif" border="0" alt="Stick out t&#111;ngue" title="Stick out t&#111;ngue" /></FONT><FONT face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif size=3>At this point, for my needs, &nbsp;there is no need for me to reinstall DNS.</FONT></td></tr></table> <DIV><FONT size=3>That's a great endorsement for the WSRToolkit. Do you mind if&nbsp;I mention this thread and your report in other forums?</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>Thanks,<BR>Marty</FONT></DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mmarkoe - 09/May/2009 at 5:38pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=25">cmwilkerson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09/May/2009 at 12:06pm<br /><br />Marty,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks for the reply. </DIV><DIV>I'm using WSR on Windows 7 with a Lenovo Tabletpc X200 with internal array mic and 4 gigs of RAM. It works great but needs a medical lexicon. For example, the word, "radiculitis," is seen as "ridiculous." Using the Tablet Dictionary's import tool, I imported 1000 medical words. <BR><BR><img src="http://digital-doc.com/images/LENOVO/001.JPG" height="735" width="551" border="0" /> <P><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif></FONT></P><DIV><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif></FONT></DIV><P><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif>After the import, radiculitis is recognized, as well every medical word tested that resides in my import!!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.emrupdate.com/emotic&#111;ns/emoti&#111;n-4.gif" border="0" alt="Stick out t&#111;ngue" title="Stick out t&#111;ngue" /></FONT></P><P><FONT size=3 face=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif>At this point, for my needs, &nbsp;there is no need for me to reinstall DNS.</FONT></P></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7">mmarkoe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/May/2009 at 5:37pm<br /><br /><DIV>&#091;/QUOTE=cmwilkerson&#093;I think you misunderstood my question. My fault. I am not referncing, "Resources," in the sense of CPU cylces and or memory. I am referring to a scenario of say having a Lexion of 100,0000 words vs 10,000 words and the affect on recognition. &#091;/QUOTE&#093; </DIV><DIV>In Dragon there's a lexicon of approximately 160,000 words from the English language. However, there is a limit to what is in the actual active vocabulary. I believe for Dragon it is something like 10,000 words. Therefore, almost all the words you think you were adding are actually already in the lexicon. When you correct a word or add a new word not in the lexicon,&nbsp;you're actually just moving it into the active 10,000 word lexicon and something else that has not been used&nbsp;is moved out of the active vocabulary.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I would guess that WSR Works the same way. If the active vocabulary were so large, it would really slow things down completely. I think when Dragon starts to choke it is because of many incorrectly corrected words and nonsense words that get into the system.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.msspeech-forum.com/member_profile.asp?PF=25">cmwilkerson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 76<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05/May/2009 at 12:44pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by mmarkoe" alt="Originally posted by mmarkoe" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>mmarkoe wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" alt="Originally posted by cmwilkerson" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>cmwilkerson wrote:</strong><br /><br />I will run the toolkit as well. My biggest fear is bloating my profile to the point of recognition accuracy declining. Any advice on this? Is there a sweet spot?</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV>WSR does not seem to be a resource hog as compared to Dragon Naturally Speaking.&nbsp; We have a notebook computer and a desktop at the office that have user profiles that are 2 1/2 old and I cannot discern any performance slow down with these machines as compared to any machines with newer profiles.&nbsp; These mature user profiles have many words, phrases, and macros added as well as having run documents through the add from file and train from text features. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Marty</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>Marty,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I think you misunderstood my question. My fault. I am not referncing, "Resources," in the sense of CPU cylces and or memory. I am referring to a scenario of say having a Lexion of 100,0000 words vs 10,000 words and the affect on recognition. </DIV>]]>
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